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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 13th April 2013, 01:31 PM
Replies: 15
Views: 15,744
Posted By PenangsangII
both are well made Maduran or East Javan copies...

both are well made Maduran or East Javan copies of what could be authentic Malay malela keris. Very widespread phenomenon to tap the Malaysian and Singaporean market
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th March 2013, 07:44 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 22,553
Posted By PenangsangII
a marriage made in heaven :D the sheath is...

a marriage made in heaven :D

the sheath is of Cirebon and Solo influence. The hilt is stylized from the Bugis rekko hilt but has strong Kalimantan flavor. The blade... well we need a clearer shot.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 24th January 2013, 03:17 AM
Replies: 38
Views: 42,160
Posted By PenangsangII
pesi ceblokan is a term to refer a pesi of keris...

pesi ceblokan is a term to refer a pesi of keris that was made after the blade was completed. normal pesi is made together with the blade. some old blade has this pesi ceblokan (originally made by...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 23rd January 2013, 11:09 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 7,471
Posted By PenangsangII
historically speaking, Nusa Tenggara was in the...

historically speaking, Nusa Tenggara was in the Majapahit Realm during Hayam Wuruk's time.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 23rd January 2013, 10:51 PM
Replies: 38
Views: 42,160
Posted By PenangsangII
when I saw the sor soran part of the blade, I...

when I saw the sor soran part of the blade, I thought the keris had a ''pesi ceblokan''. Correct me if I am wrong
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 16th May 2012, 01:08 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 42,764
Posted By PenangsangII
so Siam ? Ayuthaya was indeed a muslim state.......

so Siam ? Ayuthaya was indeed a muslim state.... :D

over the years the history of Siam was reconstructed to befit the Thai nationalism. I am sorry, thats is at least what many in Malaysia, esp in...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th April 2012, 02:24 AM
Replies: 33
Views: 42,764
Posted By PenangsangII
Gustav, it looks like a Buddhist temple to me... ...

Gustav, it looks like a Buddhist temple to me...

I am talking about Siam circa 1700 AD before it was sacked by Sukkhotai
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 29th April 2012, 05:10 PM
Replies: 33
Views: 42,764
Posted By PenangsangII
with this article and painted image, I cannot...

with this article and painted image, I cannot help but wondering whether Siam (Ayothya) was actually a muslim state...?
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 4th February 2012, 04:18 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 13,298
Posted By PenangsangII
its almost impossible to determine the tangguh of...

its almost impossible to determine the tangguh of this keris just by looking at the pictures. However the blade profile looks like Tuban or Cirebon to me
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 14th January 2012, 11:05 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 28,642
Posted By PenangsangII
i even several times purposely purchased straight...

i even several times purposely purchased straight Jawanese blades only (possibly the original wrangka were damaged or purchased by other buyers) then sheathed them with Pattani tebeng sarungs to...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 13th January 2012, 02:09 AM
Replies: 31
Views: 28,642
Posted By PenangsangII
the pamor garap looks like senopaten era garap...

the pamor garap looks like senopaten era garap (or even Majapahit). But the material looks from newer era. I am puzzled too :confused: :confused:

and ofcourse people of Nusantara move about from...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 13th January 2012, 02:01 AM
Replies: 44
Views: 41,931
Posted By PenangsangII
Thank you again Alan for yet another enlightening...

Thank you again Alan for yet another enlightening interpretation of Jawanese history.

Yes, the definition of "honor" is varied depending from where you look at things. Since Ken Arok staged a coup...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 12th January 2012, 07:12 AM
Replies: 44
Views: 41,931
Posted By PenangsangII
David, forgive my crude language, by saying...

David, forgive my crude language, by saying "outside Jawa", I was actually trying to give general perspective of the people around the Nusantara land with respect to "Jawa speaking world"

Alan, as...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 12th January 2012, 02:13 AM
Replies: 44
Views: 41,931
Posted By PenangsangII
I think Cirebon's so-called keris is unique in...

I think Cirebon's so-called keris is unique in its own way. The mix of various cultures - Sunda, Jawanese, Malay, Makassar, Bugis, Sumatra, Arab, Chinese etc has made the keris culture in Cirebon as...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 10th January 2012, 04:27 AM
Replies: 44
Views: 41,931
Posted By PenangsangII
Alan, indeed I am based in Malaysia, born in...

Alan, indeed I am based in Malaysia, born in Malaysia from Malaysian parents. However, I am also a Javanese, speak Jawanese (ngoko) though somewhat can understand Jawa krama.

I know some of...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 10th January 2012, 02:02 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 12,729
Posted By PenangsangII
Chenuk is a place in Pattani that was identified...

Chenuk is a place in Pattani that was identified as one of the biggest melting points as far as keris is concerned. It was said the "kampung" was the best keris producers in 18th and 19th century.
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Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 10th January 2012, 01:47 AM
Replies: 44
Views: 41,931
Posted By PenangsangII
only until recently, Pajajaran (mostly found...

only until recently, Pajajaran (mostly found around Cirebon) kerises were not really appreciated by collectors based in Jawa, but the situation seems to gradually change. This phenomenon takes place...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 9th January 2012, 01:47 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 41,931
Posted By PenangsangII
during Sultan Agung's attempts to capture Batavia...

during Sultan Agung's attempts to capture Batavia from the Dutch, the Jawanese forces were centered in Cirebon/Tegal/Banten. Thus kerises during that period are actually easier to identify, being...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 9th January 2012, 07:07 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 12,729
Posted By PenangsangII
I wouldnt be surprised if this keris is...

I wouldnt be surprised if this keris is classified as "Chenuk"
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 7th January 2012, 02:23 PM
Replies: 44
Views: 41,931
Posted By PenangsangII
from what I know, Harley's blade could be east...

from what I know, Harley's blade could be east Jawa, Madiun area. Look at the luk sedheng construction as opposed to Cirebon's shallow luks.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 7th January 2012, 02:17 PM
Replies: 26
Views: 19,814
Posted By PenangsangII
Alan, by this statement, wouldnt it be proper...

Alan, by this statement, wouldnt it be proper also to say that all genuinely old made patrems are kraton empu made?
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 5th January 2012, 05:31 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 40,730
Posted By PenangsangII
purchases of keris on ebay is a gamble...

purchases of keris on ebay is a gamble actually..... out of 10 kerises, we may be lucky once or twice....

since those are already my pusaka (after undergoing tangguh and tayuh process for...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 4th January 2012, 08:22 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 40,730
Posted By PenangsangII
2 kerises i bought from e-bay turned out to be...

2 kerises i bought from e-bay turned out to be genuinely old and bertuah (I shall not and will not talk about this) when they were appraised by somebody who had vast experience in keris (the guy...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 3rd January 2012, 12:47 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 40,730
Posted By PenangsangII
Very well said Alan, and I cant agree more....

Very well said Alan, and I cant agree more. Treating keris with respect also means not to treat it as if its a "circus act" to the amusement of audience.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 3rd January 2012, 12:43 AM
Replies: 14
Views: 12,058
Posted By PenangsangII
Happy new year... The heavy and sturdy # 2...

Happy new year...

The heavy and sturdy # 2 keris could be tangguh Tuban. maybe a warangan treatment would suffice its true worthiness of a new sheath, or at least a secondhand keris sheath.
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