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Forum: Ethnographic Miscellania 8th November 2024, 09:09 PM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Tried this? ...

Tried this?
...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 4th November 2024, 03:43 AM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Never knew that.

Never knew that.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 4th November 2024, 01:14 AM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
I had heard about vegetable ivory a long time...

I had heard about vegetable ivory a long time before I understood what it was or saw any, then in the 1980's exquisite little Chinese or Japanese carvings began to appear in (mostly) jewellers' shops...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 3rd November 2024, 12:53 AM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yep, I sometimes find it necessary to do the same...

Yep, I sometimes find it necessary to do the same thing --- and not only with Western World collectors, clarification is sometimes needed with people from Jawa & Bali.

When I think about it, this...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 2nd November 2024, 09:17 PM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
David, what I was taught is that the keris is the...

David, what I was taught is that the keris is the blade, the other components, the hilt, mendak, wrongko are just dress items. Javanese people get around the problem of referring to the complete...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st November 2024, 09:49 PM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
For me, culturally Bugis, but as to geographic...

For me, culturally Bugis, but as to geographic point of blade and dress origin, I am unable to form an opinion.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st November 2024, 12:13 PM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Hugh, Milandro is correct, it is not a keris...

Hugh, Milandro is correct, it is not a keris hilt, it could be a knife handle, or it could be a pelecok handle, the only way I would know for certain which one would be to hold it.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st November 2024, 07:59 AM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Obviously I could not. Over time the...

Obviously I could not.

Over time the differences in appearance soaked in & it became second nature to know, or more likely to feel, what I was looking at.

Music again:- how can we listen to and...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st November 2024, 07:43 AM
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Views: 2,897
Posted By A. G. Maisey
There is no English name, but I think perhaps...

There is no English name, but I think perhaps 'buffalo friend' might be more suitable:- no kerbau = no rice

It is not really many names for the buff, but rather many languages, Old Javanese is no...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st November 2024, 05:47 AM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yep, look at a lot of the stuff and you recognise...

Yep, look at a lot of the stuff and you recognise it instinctively. I have around 200 ivory hilts, many of those are marine ivory, others are elephant. I have seen & handled many more than I own.
...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 1st November 2024, 05:40 AM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
kebo is low level Javanese --- ngoko --- for...

kebo is low level Javanese --- ngoko --- for water buffalo, high level --- krama (kromo) --- is maesa/maisa/mahesa, and the high level is sometimes used for this form also; Bahasa Indonesia/ Malay...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 31st October 2024, 11:55 PM
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Views: 2,897
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Exactly so David. Even the highly respected...

Exactly so David.

Even the highly respected Surakarta Pakem book is at variance with popular opinion in many respects.

The whole thing is this:- with keris there is no universal standard that...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 31st October 2024, 10:01 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 2,897
Posted By A. G. Maisey
For the kebo style keris I'd be inclined to give...

For the kebo style keris I'd be inclined to give it as Kebo Dengen Luk Sembilan.

But there is a problem in that Kebo Dengen should be Luk Lima & it should not have an ada-ada.

In any case, the...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 31st October 2024, 09:49 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 2,527
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Hilt:- marine ivory.

Hilt:- marine ivory.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 31st October 2024, 12:14 PM
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Posted By A. G. Maisey
I forgot the picture. I've taken the liberty...

I forgot the picture.

I've taken the liberty of altering the blade orientation to make it easier to read, as we can see, it would be quite difficult to convince anybody that this blade displays...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 31st October 2024, 12:10 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 2,527
Posted By A. G. Maisey
I like this keris, but it does have some elements...

I like this keris, but it does have some elements that perhaps deserve
comment.

The hilt is a fairly conventional donoriko, & as Milandro has commented, the selut & mendak are recent. Together...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 30th October 2024, 04:45 AM
Replies: 18
Views: 6,617
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Perhaps these little bits of material were put in...

Perhaps these little bits of material were put in place in order to achieve a neat mating of the mendak to the hilt.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th October 2024, 08:58 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 3,208
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Yep. Complex. Keris are not something...

Yep.

Complex.

Keris are not something we can come to terms with in a short period of time, & this is something that frustrates many people and causes them to look for more easily understand...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th October 2024, 04:32 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 3,208
Posted By A. G. Maisey
To classify a keris blade we do not use style...

To classify a keris blade we do not use style alone, & I agree that we cannot use just style to provide the probability of geographic point of origin of a keris blade. This is the reason I qualified...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 25th October 2024, 01:53 AM
Replies: 6
Views: 3,208
Posted By A. G. Maisey
There is really no room for doubt about this...

There is really no room for doubt about this keris blade, not so much for what it is, but rather for what it is not.

Stylistically it is definitely not Bugis.

No experienced student of the...
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 15th October 2024, 09:10 PM
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Views: 8,586
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Agreed.

Agreed.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 11th October 2024, 10:23 PM
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Views: 11,852
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Very nice Anthony, but do you think that perhaps...

Very nice Anthony, but do you think that perhaps a nice East Jawa or North Coast mendak might suit better?
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 9th October 2024, 09:23 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 40,325
Posted By A. G. Maisey
That "Origin" paper is pretty old, the core of...

That "Origin" paper is pretty old, the core of it, I think I can still support, but it really needs to be rechurned.

Hugh, the simple answer to your question is that I do not know why most keris...
Forum: Ethnographic Weapons 7th October 2024, 12:34 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 7,333
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Superb. Thank you.

Superb.

Thank you.
Forum: Keris Warung Kopi 5th October 2024, 10:21 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 40,325
Posted By A. G. Maisey
Perhaps no general conclusion, but my own...

Perhaps no general conclusion, but my own conclusion is very simple:- money.

Smiths work for a living.

The cheaper one makes something, the cheaper one can sell it, the more sales that can be...
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