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David 1st June 2026 01:37 PM

Orgins of Vintage Folder
 
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Hi All!
I am looking for some info on this interesting vintage folder that belongs to a good friend of mine. And ideas on origin would be appreciated. Thanks!

Jim McDougall 1st June 2026 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 303568)
Hi All!
I am looking for some info on this interesting vintage folder that belongs to a good friend of mine. And ideas on origin would be appreciated. Thanks!


Not sure but offhand looks like something from Finland. Reminds me of puuko from those areas especially the Lapp people.

Sajen 1st June 2026 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall (Post 303569)
Not sure but offhand looks like something from Finland. Reminds me of puuko from those areas especially the Lapp people.

Sorry Jim, I don't think so! My gut feeling! ;)

Regards,
Detlef

Rick 1st June 2026 04:03 PM

Hi David,
The ferrule looks like it rotates to lock the blade open like the Opinel knives; yes?
A picture of what is carved on the surface of the handle might help.

gp 1st June 2026 04:10 PM

I understand where Jim was coming from as my thoughts were also in a similar direction, but more towards an Inuit type with regards to the zoomorphic decoration...but than again I could be totally mistaken....!:rolleyes:

Edster 1st June 2026 04:40 PM

To me it looks like a vintage artistic addition to the French Nontron folder. See attached. Maybe someone will show the knife as I am too technically challenged to do it myself.

https://www.objectsofuse.com/Nontron-penknife-8cm

Best,
Ed

Sajen 1st June 2026 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Edster (Post 303574)
To me it looks like a vintage artistic addition to the French Nontron folder. See attached. Maybe someone will show the knife as I am too technically challenged to do it myself.

https://www.objectsofuse.com/Nontron-penknife-8cm

Good possible! Here you go!

Tim Simmons 1st June 2026 08:14 PM

Interesting knife. Is a French hunying knife? The animal is confusing from the pictures shown. To me it appears to have an agressive wild boar snout and possbly antlers. I would not have thought any creative would see a boat snout with antlers. Just a view probably not helping.

Rick 2nd June 2026 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall (Post 303569)
Not sure but offhand looks like something from Finland. Reminds me of puuko from those areas especially the Lapp people.

I Think it may be inspired by Scandinavian iconography.
I think we need pictures of the creature relief carved on the back of the grip.
If the figure is a prick-eared canine, then I would suggest it relates to Fenrir, the wolf who ate Odin.
I know there are no fangs shown and I can't account for that.

More pictures please.:)

gp 2nd June 2026 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick (Post 303582)
I Think it may be inspired by Scandinavian iconography.
I think we need pictures of the creature relief carved on the back of the grip.
If the figure is a prick-eared canine, then I would suggest it relates to Fenrir, the wolf who ate Odin.
I know there are no fangs shown and I can't account for that.

More pictures please.:)

might indeed be the case... enclosed a picture of a 17th century manuscript showing Loki's son Fenrir, AKA Fenrisulven or Fenris that shows some simularities

Tim Simmons 2nd June 2026 09:49 AM

That makes more sense. Very nice usable folder.

David 2nd June 2026 03:37 PM

Thanks for all your responses. I will link this discussion to my friend and see if we can get some more photos. :)

Edster 2nd June 2026 06:23 PM

I think the key to the knife ID is the collar. Does it rotate to lock the blade open like Opinel? If it doesn't rotate & lock; Never Mind. But the Opinel patent of 1955 is centuries later than the design perhaps used on the Nontron. Here is AI's take on the issue:

AI Overview
The Nontron knife features a rotating metal collar (or "virole") that acts as a ring lock, first invented in the 17th century by Parisian master cutler Guillaume Legrand.

Key Characteristics & UseHow It Works: You manually twist the brass or nickel-silver ring over the pivot area when the blade is fully opened. This blocks the blade from closing, keeping your fingers safe.Historical Significance: While it operates similarly to modern rotating rings (like those on an Opinel), the Nontron locking ring predates them by centuries.

Maintenance: Over time, humidity or wood swelling might make the ring lock either too stiff or too loose. If the ring becomes too loose, it can be carefully removed and gently pinched in a vise to re-establish a snug friction fit.

Regards,
Ed


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