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wildwolberine 29th September 2025 02:47 AM

Unusual old knife, origin unknown???
 
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Just added this unusual old knife to my collection. I would certainly appreciate any insight into its origins! I think it has characteristics of knives from northern Luzon but the hilt is an unusual shape. Appears to be missing a ferrule. Old, worn scabbard with a single rattan band remaining. Blade has a rounded tip and certainly shows a lot of wear.

Battara 29th September 2025 03:22 AM

The carvings look Visayan to me, but the blade isn't.

Could also be Formosan.

ausjulius 29th September 2025 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wildwolberine (Post 299959)
Just added this unusual old knife to my collection. I would certainly appreciate any insight into its origins! I think it has characteristics of knives from northern Luzon but the hilt is an unusual shape. Appears to be missing a ferrule. Old, worn scabbard with a single rattan band remaining. Blade has a rounded tip and certainly shows a lot of wear.

Can we see the spine of the blade? How thick is it,? , what is the blade edge profile like? Single beveled or doubly beveled?

werecow 30th September 2025 12:12 AM

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Kind of reminds me of the Bhutanese short swords with the open scabbards. Probably just convergent evolution but can't help but wonder if there's a connection there.

wildwolberine 30th September 2025 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ausjulius (Post 299978)
Can we see the spine of the blade? How thick is it,? , what is the blade edge profile like? Single beveled or doubly beveled?

Of course! The blade is about 5mm at the hilt. The blade’s very rough and beaten-up, but it seems to have a double bevel. It actually curves forward slightly, with the spine in front of the rounded tip about in line with the center of the hilt.

wildwolberine 30th September 2025 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Battara (Post 299964)
The carvings look Visayan to me, but the blade isn't.

Could also be Formosan.

Thanks! I thought Formosa could be a possibility.

wildwolberine 30th September 2025 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by werecow (Post 299979)
Kind of reminds me of the Bhutanese short swords with the open scabbards. Probably just convergent evolution but can't help but wonder if there's a connection there.

Very interesting! I can see the resemblance with the hilts.

Tim Simmons 30th September 2025 06:06 AM

Or Tibetan.

Ian 30th September 2025 08:20 AM

A Himalayan origin (or thereabouts) might be revealed by cleaning and etching the laminated blade. A "hairpin" pattern would be fairly conclusive, if present. The scabbard might also be a mismatch.

Tim Simmons 30th September 2025 08:45 AM

Very similar.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...=tibetan+knife

Rafngard 30th September 2025 02:50 PM

How well does the scabbard fit the blade?
The scabbard (which looks very SE Asian to me) looks like significantly longer than the blade.
Like Ian, I'm wondering if they weren't born together?

Thanks,
Leif


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