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mattl6 4th August 2016 08:10 PM

Inherited Yatagan
 
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Hi All,
I recently inherited this Yataghan and I was wondering if anyone would be able to help with identification, dating, inscription translation, etc...
Thank you all in advance,
Matt

Battara 5th August 2016 01:23 AM

To me this looks like a Turkish proper 19th century piece. Date will be better confirmed once some translates the Turkish in Arabic script. I will say though that I believe the Ottomans changed to Western Romanized script after 1928 under Kamal Ataturk.

mattl6 11th August 2016 07:57 PM

Thanks Battara. Does anyone else have any further information? A translation of the script would be greatly appreciated!

Kubur 12th August 2016 10:23 AM

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The date is 1788, end of 18th c.
You should post a better photo of the inscription.
Anyway it's a nice yataghan but not a master piece.
I like the walrus grips.

kronckew 12th August 2016 03:06 PM

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i twerked your images, got tired of craning my neck. ;)
interesting 'tree of life'
scabbard under it does not look original :) later replacement?

mattl6 17th August 2016 02:30 PM

Thank you for the dating Kubur.
Yes kronckew, the scabbard is definitely not original. I appreciate the updated images.

Any translations available out there?

Thank you all for all the helpful information!

mattl6 8th September 2016 01:27 AM

Any one have any more information?
Thank you all in advance.

mattl6 30th September 2016 03:20 PM

Bump for a translation if it is out there.
Thank you

mattl6 12th November 2016 08:10 PM

Last bump try.

kwiatek 20th October 2019 05:35 PM

A Turkish couplet:

bu bıçağın zarbından cümle düşman tarumar
her belayı def’ eder ol gani perverdigar


“All of the enemy are scattered at this knife’s blow,
That Self-Sufficient Sustainer (i.e. God) repels every catastrophe.”

kwiatek 20th October 2019 05:51 PM

Sorry, I gave an incorrect reading, it should be:

A Turkish, couplet. For some reason the first words of each line are missing.

[bu bıçağın] zarbından cümle düşman tar-ü mar
[alır düşmandan] intikamını sanki misli zülfikar


“The entire enemy are scattered at [this knife’s] blow,
[It takes] its revenge on the enemy like Zülfikar.”

The maker’s mark reads “Ahmed”.

ariel 21st October 2019 01:35 AM

Finally we got a member who can read old Turkish!

Kwiatek, you are more than welcome here!
Just do not leave this place because of too many requests to translate.

kronckew 21st October 2019 10:22 AM

Yes, knowledge is better when passed on, the more it is spread, the better we all get.


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