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sfenoid13 12th July 2020 07:18 PM

Translation help on Yatagan
 
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i recently obtained this Yat. I cant seem to find anyone who can read the inscriptions..

francantolin 12th July 2020 09:32 PM

Really fine model !!
Congratulations

sfenoid13 13th July 2020 05:35 PM

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will these images help?

sfenoid13 13th July 2020 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by francantolin
Really fine model !!
Congratulations

Thank you! it is a unique variety with that type of handle and fuller. The scabbard is also very nice. I dont know why though the fuller is brass and the handle is silver, but both seem original to the blade. its very pretty though..

Ian 13th July 2020 09:54 PM

Hi sfenoid,

Perhaps the owner upgraded the hilt and scabbard to silver when his social standing increased or he became more affluent/influential. Not uncommon in many cultures.

sfenoid13 13th July 2020 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian
Hi sfenoid,

Perhaps the owner upgraded the hilt and scabbard to silver when his social standing increased or he became more affluent/influential. Not uncommon in many cultures.


so he still couldnt afford to update the fuller? :)) may be some people like gold and silver together :shrug:

Saracen 13th July 2020 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sfenoid13
i recently obtained this Yat. I cant seem to find anyone who can read the inscriptions..


Очень похоже: "этот меч как Зульфакар, увидев его твои враги разбегутся"

Very similar: "this sword is like Zulfakar, when your enemies see it, they will flee"

Ian 14th July 2020 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by sfenoid13
so he still couldnt afford to update the fuller? :)) may be some people like gold and silver together :shrug:
The brass bolster would have been inside the scabbard. So, when sheathed the sword would have looked all silver. Also, to redo the bolster may have required dismounting the whole hilt.

sfenoid13 14th July 2020 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ian
The brass bolster would have been inside the scabbard. So, when sheathed the sword would have looked all silver. Also, to redo the bolster may have required dismounting the whole hilt.

Makes sense ...

sfenoid13 14th July 2020 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Saracen
Очень похоже: "этот меч как Зульфакар, увидев его твои враги разбегутся"

Very similar: "this sword is like Zulfakar, when your enemies see it, they will flee"

What’s the English transliteration? I don’t speak Russian unfortunately

mariusgmioc 14th July 2020 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sfenoid13
What’s the English transliteration? I don’t speak Russian unfortunately


I don't speak Russian either... but to me

"this sword is like Zulfakar, when your enemies see it, they will flee"

sounds like English.

;)

PS: Very nice Yataghan and to my eyes from the Balkans.

kwiatek 14th July 2020 07:18 AM

It was copied without understanding what it should mean and with words missing,
probably by an illiterate artisan:

[Darbından bu] bıçağın cümle düşman tar ü mar
[İntikam alır] aduvvdan sanki misli zülfikar

“[From its blow] this knife‘s enemies are scattered,
[It takes revenge] upon the enemy like Zülfikar.”

These are very common verses on yataghans

sfenoid13 15th July 2020 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kwiatek
It was copied without understanding what it should mean and with words missing,
probably by an illiterate artisan:

[Darbından bu] bıçağın cümle düşman tar ü mar
[İntikam alır] aduvvdan sanki misli zülfikar

“[From its blow] this knife‘s enemies are scattered,
[It takes revenge] upon the enemy like Zülfikar.”

These are very common verses on yataghans

Thank you very much! Does the cartouche one the back(the second picture ) have a date you think ? Like 27 may be ?


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