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chregu 4th June 2023 04:42 PM

ottoman knife help with translation
 
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my latest find
Knife 27cm
Blade of fine Wootz steel, with gold koftgari
Handle is three-piece and made of brown jade with gold inlays. the end of the handle is decorated with a red agate (?).
Silver scabbard, unfortunately the tip is missing
I would like to hear the specialists' opinion on this knife and a translation of the writing would certainly be very helpful.

thank you all for taking the time.
greetings from Switzerland

Turkoman.khan 4th June 2023 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chregu (Post 282462)
my latest find
Knife 27cm
Blade of fine Wootz steel, with gold koftgari
Handle is three-piece and made of brown jade with gold inlays. the end of the handle is decorated with a red agate (?).
Silver scabbard, unfortunately the tip is missing
I would like to hear the specialists' opinion on this knife and a translation of the writing would certainly be very helpful.

thank you all for taking the time.
greetings from Switzerland

Hello chregu

Congratulations! Magnificent knife.
I asked for my friend's help in translating. Here is what he writes:
Well known saying for Turkish (Seljuk) thinker and statesman Ahi Evran:
Gelen gelsun saadetle, Giden getsun selametle.
كلان كلسون سعادلة، كيدن كيتسون سلامتلة.
Translation: Everyone is wellcomed to be one of us, however, we welkcome his leaving us if he asks to leave.

chregu 5th June 2023 02:10 PM

Hello Turkoman. khan

thank you very much for your quick answer.
so the knife would have to come from the area of ​​today's Türkiye? from around the middle of the 19th century? what do you think?

Greetings Chregu

Turkoman.khan 5th June 2023 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chregu (Post 282495)
Hello Turkoman. khan

thank you very much for your quick answer.
so the knife would have to come from the area of ​​today's Türkiye? from around the middle of the 19th century? what do you think?

Greetings Chregu

Hello Chregu

I think this is the center of the Ottoman Empire (today's Turkey) and I think this is the 18th century

Turkoman. khan

chregu 13th June 2023 01:25 PM

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Hello Turkoman.khan

Thanks a lot for your help
I am fascinated by the brown jade handle, which is rarely seen. I still have a curved dagger with an identical handle. but this is currently in an exhibition.
picture below right

eftihis 14th June 2023 06:53 AM

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Daggers with same type of hard stone handle.


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