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Kubur 29th November 2019 04:56 PM

Fokos, Nadziak,Czekan, Obuszek
 
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Hi Guys,

It's not a fokos, but what is this?
Is it a Nadziak,Czekan, Obuszek??
Not mine but I'm just curious to know your opinion.
In Buttin he calls that Russian war axe...
Could it be Ottoman with the green velvet?

Kubur

kronckew 29th November 2019 05:08 PM

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Looks like a Polish/Hungarian noble's war axe or Obuzek/Chekan.

Dimensions?

My similar Obuzek:

Kubur 29th November 2019 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kronckew
Looks like a Polish/Hungarian noble's war axe or Obuzek/Chekan.

Dimensions?

My similar Obuzek:

Thanks
I read your posts and it seems that you like this kind of things...
So first you confirm that it has nothing to do with the walking shepperd axes or fokos? Then there is no chance to be Russian or Turkish Ottoman?
Look at the shaft and the tombak...

:confused:

Battara 29th November 2019 07:28 PM

Looks like it has a wootz blade.

kronckew 29th November 2019 07:40 PM

Smeone once suggested to me mine may have once had a decorative cover of velvet. the bottom end of yours does not look like a walking stick end. It appears to be too short to be a walking stick, (fokos or ciupaga). the Hugarian/Polish/Russian areas fluctuated wildly back then, so it could be Russian I suppose. How long is it? I'd expect a walking stick/shepherd's axe cane to be in the range of 30-40 inches (76-101 cm.)with most in the upper half of that range. Could be wootz or bulat, could just be corrosion. would need a polish & etch to corroberate. that test may detract from the value...

Ren Ren 29th November 2019 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kubur
So first you confirm that it has nothing to do with the walking shepperd axes or fokos? Then there is no chance to be Russian or Turkish Ottoman?

I doubt that this subject can be Russian. Only if to the Transcarpathian Rusyns, perhaps. It is more likely that this is one of the types of Hungarian fokos. https://mek.oszk.hu/02100/02115/html/2-384.html If I correctly understood the translation from Hungarian into Russian made by Google, at the end of the 19th century such hatchets were an obligatory symbol at weddings. I like that chance :)


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