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JBG163 8th October 2022 08:51 PM

When you buy a "Chinese mace" and end up with a "Duc René one..."
 
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Dear all !
Funny story, that will end well however it turns out.
I bought some weeks ago a "Chinese wooden mace"... I was thinking it to be for training recruits, build strenght etc...
After talking with several people and researching it ... It turns out that wooden mace is European, depicted in two books : "Livre des tournois du Duc René I, ~circa 1460" and "Waffen Kunde, Boeheim 1890".
This is a joust/tournament mace, use in the 15th but also in the 19th, during several reenactment of this period (mostly belgium, germany and UK).
For now on, i didn't found any exemple to compare with. I asked several specialists if they were aware of exemple surviving.... None at this time.
It can be from 15th or 19th (probably and statistically the later), but it's still an awesome and funny find.
I will have it C tested if possible.

CSinTX 8th October 2022 11:05 PM

Congratulations on a very interesting find! And thanks for sharing it with us!

The pommel definitely looks to have some age to it. Can you give us some more pictures of the guard plate? Assume no markings?

JBG163 10th October 2022 08:26 PM

No marking.
Guard have an unusual construction but can't give more clue for now. I hope to be able to meet the french army museum staff, so they can study it ...

awdaniec666 11th October 2022 04:42 PM

Funny story and congratulations on this find. On the matter of C-tesing: I once asked a world-renowned dendro-archeologist if he could help me with a wooden hilt on one of my swords. His answer was sure, but he needs at least 10 gramms of wood. Think twice before giving that wood away! ;)

JBG163 11th October 2022 04:48 PM

Depending on the method, it varies on the number of gr.
30mg are enough for accelerated method.
But need to drill a little hole to get the uncontaminated wood.

kronckew 15th October 2022 08:57 AM

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Reminds me of my NE African club, 3ft. Grip is partially covered in leather with the hair on.

cornelistromp 15th October 2022 02:15 PM

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the construction of the rondel, with the metal band on the rim around it, resembles somewhat a 14/15th c basilard in my collection.


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