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Sajen 8th June 2023 04:10 PM

And a Bali keris for comment
 
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And here a Bali keris which found its way to my collection a few month ago. Also this blade received a new stain.

Sajen 9th June 2023 06:13 AM

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The Bali keris before warangan.

Sajen 2nd July 2023 10:16 AM

Also so bad that nobody wants to give a comment??

A. G. Maisey 2nd July 2023 01:12 PM

Detlef, it is not that these keris you have shown are something less than good, I believe it is because they are something better than good. All the keris are good examples of their type & in good condition.

What is there to say except "Thank you for permitting us to see them".

Sajen 2nd July 2023 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey (Post 283036)
Detlef, it is not that these keris you have shown are something less than good, I believe it is because they are something better than good. All the keris are good examples of their type & in good condition.

What is there to say except "Thank you for permitting us to see them".

Thank you Alan! I think it was more because I was showing the keris Kamardikan and the Central Java keris at the same time and these other keris went under a bit as a result. But it would have been nice to have received one or two comments on these other keris! ;) But anyway, it was my enjoy to show them here.

Regards,
Detlef

David 2nd July 2023 04:34 PM

Sorry Detlef, but i have to admit this one got past me. Not sure exactly how.
So allow me to just say "Thank you for permitting us to see them". LOL! ;)
Seriously though, nice ensemble. I really enjoy the the use of alternating wood patterns in the dress.
Did you do the warangan yourself?

Sajen 2nd July 2023 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 283039)
Did you do the warangan yourself?

Thank you David for the comment! ;)
The warangan was done from a man in the Netherlands, interestingly not with arsenic but with realgar. :eek:

Regards,
Detlef

David 2nd July 2023 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen (Post 283041)
Thank you David for the comment! ;)
The warangan was done from a man in the Netherlands, interestingly not with arsenic but with realgar. :eek:

Regards,
Detlef

Well, ultimately realgar IS arsenic, isn't it?

Sajen 2nd July 2023 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 283043)
Well, ultimately realgar IS arsenic, isn't it?

Yes, it is but my own attempts with realgar etching haven't been very successful. I gave away my arsen when my first child was born.

Anthony G. 2nd July 2023 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen (Post 282610)
The Bali keris before warangan.

Greeting

Good strong Balinese keris if you asked me :D

David 2nd July 2023 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen (Post 283048)
Yes, it is but my own attempts with realgar etching haven't been very successful. I gave away my arsen when my first child was born.

Yes, i have never used it, but my understanding is that realgar is not at all consistent in its quality. Shame you felt the need to get rid if your arsenic supply. I would have thought a good lock box or safe might have solved your problem there.

Sajen 2nd July 2023 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony G. (Post 283049)
Greeting

Good strong Balinese keris if you asked me :D

Hello Anthony,

Everybody was asked! :D;) Thank you for your comment!

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen 2nd July 2023 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 283050)
Yes, i have never used it, but my understanding is that realgar is not at all consistent in its quality. Shame you felt the need to get rid if your arsenic supply. I would have thought a good lock box or safe might have solved your problem there.

Agree in both points! But my wife has played a great part by this decision to that time. Now my children are accrued and I regret it a little bit. :(

David 2nd July 2023 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen (Post 283053)
Agree in both points! But my wife has played a great part by this decision to that time. Now my children are accrued and I regret it a little bit. :(

This is not unlike the officer's katana my dad had returned with from the Pacific after WWII that my mom made him get rid of when we kids were born. Not so much my dad's regret as my own.

Sajen 2nd July 2023 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 283056)
This is not unlike the officer's katana my dad had returned with from the Pacific after WWII that my mom made him get rid of when we kids were born. Not so much my dad's regret as my own.

I think nearly every member here can tell similar stories! :D:D;)

SidJ 2nd July 2023 09:00 PM

It is such a lovely keris that I would love to have it if you ever get bored of it!
Nice warangan job too. Realgar seems to give a subtler stain it seems but even more alluring to my eyes.

Sajen 2nd July 2023 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SidJ (Post 283062)
It is such a lovely keris that I would love to have it if you ever get bored of it!
Nice warangan job too. Realgar seems to give a subtler stain it seems but even more alluring to my eyes.

Thank you Sid, when I ever get bored of it I will inform you! ;)

Regards,
Detlef

Anthony G. 14th July 2023 05:32 AM

Hi

You stained it yourself using warangan? Orelse what did you use for staining if warangan is not available. I got similar blade which I want to try staining it with home vinegar. I have no access to warangan.

Sajen 14th July 2023 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony G. (Post 283273)
Hi

You stained it yourself using warangan? Orelse what did you use for staining if warangan is not available. I got similar blade which I want to try staining it with home vinegar. I have no access to warangan.

Hi Anthony,

No, it was stained by a man in the Netherlands with realgar warangan. My own attempt to etch with realgar was nor really successful.

Regards,
Detlef


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