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CharlesS 3rd April 2014 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by VVV
I also handled Artzi's strange sword when in Baltimore and agree with Charles.
It's much to light and slim to be either a bangkris or a krikung.
Here is an example of a "typical" bangkris.

Kai, I think there already is a thread somewhere on my strange sword from Artzi that you reposted.

Michael


That is one odd and awesome piece Michael. Is that as good a cleaver as it looks, or is it a little odd to handle?

VVV 3rd April 2014 04:55 PM

Which one of them?

The bangkris is a bit top heavy but OK for a good blow.
The Mindanao cleaver is not so well balanced (maybe because my hands don't fit the handle very well?).

Michael

Spunjer 3rd April 2014 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kino
LOL! I got a packet of Sinigang Soup Mix to go with that kangkung, if you ever find some.

haha, there's Bagoong (not Bangkung) available here, but no Kangkung

dunno if rick still has it, but he brought a pedangkris last feb. at the show. would be nice if he can post a pic of it...

Battara 4th April 2014 12:30 AM

Ron I was wondering, is your bangkung (not kangkung) from Palawan? The style of carving and blade look like it to me.

BTW - I do love spinach! :D

Battara 4th April 2014 12:34 AM

Oh yes, Kino, I love your bangkung (not spinach) and I enjoyed working on it. :D

Cthulhu 11th April 2014 10:17 PM

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Some amazing bangkung in this thread. Beautiful examples, all.

Here's mine. The blade's quite pitted, but I suppose that's why I could afford it.

Sajen 12th April 2014 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cthulhu
Some amazing bangkung in this thread. Beautiful examples, all.

Here's mine. The blade's quite pitted, but I suppose that's why I could afford it.



Hello Cthulhu,

nice complete example also when the blade is pitted, would be glad when I have such an example!

Regards,
Detlef

Sajen 12th April 2014 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Spunjer
lol, i'm pretty sure this was a typo, charles coz i know you're not referring to the water spinach:
http://mydestiny2011.org/wp-content...ds/kangkung.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangkung

so now you're making me crave for kangkung and not a place to buy the darn thing around here, lol :D :D :D



I love this vegetable also, my wife is used to cook it with chilli and you can get it here in Germany in asia shops. :)

DaveA 10th August 2014 12:06 AM

Not a Bangkung?
 
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Originally Posted by CharlesS
Here are my examples. Technically the top example is NOT a bangkung, but certainly serves the same function. That shorter one is surprisingly heavier than either of the larger examples shown.

The scabbards on the top and middle one are new.


Charles, if the top example is emphatically not a bangkung, what is it? Here is one I acquired today, identified by the seller as a "banyal". There is strong resemblance in blade and scabbard, although your hilt is much nicer.

- Dave A.

blue lander 18th August 2014 07:12 PM

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Here's my bankung. It's brand new. It's about as utilitarian as it comes. I intend to use it to clear brush in my back yard.

Ian 18th August 2014 07:17 PM

Hi Blue Lander:

The hilt and scabbard look Visayan on your new one. Does it have a chisel-edge or V-edge?

Ian.

blue lander 18th August 2014 08:09 PM

Chisel edged. The skin wrapped around the throat is goat supposedly. I think the rattan is actually plastic. It doesn't feel natural.

Sajen 18th August 2014 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by blue lander
Here's my bankung. It's brand new. It's about as utilitarian as it comes. I intend to use it to clear brush in my back yard.


Agree with Ian, Visayan Binangon. :)

blue lander 18th August 2014 08:31 PM

Good to know. I haven't given it any serious use yet but I'm not impressed with the fit and finish. The scale covered parts of the blade has some very deep pitting on it, some look like they might affect the structural integrity. It's also very top heavy and clumsy feeling.

CharlesS 27th November 2016 05:14 PM

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Here's another bangkung, I am guessing from Maguindanao, based on the hilt style. It almost looks Visayan but for the grip ferrules and corded wrap. The blade is pattern welded. The scabbard is original and simply held together by only wooden pegs. There was never any rattan.

Dimensions:

Overall length: 27in.
Blade length: 20.5in.
Blade's widest point: 1.75in.

Battara 28th November 2016 09:11 PM

Well Charles, this is a variant I have not seen. Also rare to have the total scabbard like this.

Very nice example - thanks for posting.

Sajen 28th November 2016 09:53 PM

Agree with Jose, very nice! Is it the one I've seen by epray? When yes; what a transformation with some maintenance! :) Congrats!

Regards,
Detlef

Spunjer 29th November 2016 02:37 AM

a very nice example, Charles! i'm with you that this particular piece is Mindanaoan; like you said Maguindanao.
it has a very strong Lumad flavor to it... similar to a T'boli Kefilan

Maurice 29th November 2016 10:29 AM

That is a one of a kind sword Charles! Thank you for posting this one.

CharlesS 29th November 2016 07:14 PM

Thanks for the input guys. Glad to hear there is agreement on its geographical origin; always nice to hear that others see the same unique features that I do.

Detlef...yes, from Ebay, and YES, and lot of work and time consuming restoration, but nothing is better than making an old neglected, filthy and lightly damaged piece come back to life!!! :)

Sajen 29th November 2016 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlesS
Detlef...yes, from Ebay, and YES, and lot of work and time consuming restoration, but nothing is better than making an old neglected, filthy and lightly damaged piece come back to life!!! :)


Agree complete with you Charles, at least for me it's one of the importants points of my collecting dependence! :D

Hope you don't mind when I post two pictures from the seller to show which transformation this great sword has received! ;)

Regards,
Detlef

kino 29th January 2017 04:51 PM

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Adding a Bangkung to this thread.

An old Bangkung which I initially thought was made for a child. The hilts portion that is wire wrapped is only less than 3.5in. I now believe that due to its age, construction and materials used, that its was made for a small adult.

There has been some old repair work done to the pommel. The area where the Kakatua's crest, has a matching piece of wood inserted and a dowel pinned to secure it.

Last photo show a size comparison to a kris.

Ian 29th January 2017 06:55 PM

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Here are two of mine. The top one is a small bangkung, similar to the one posted by kino, in a mid-20th C. scabbard.

The second one is larger and was exhibited in the Macau Museum of Art's "History of Steel Exhibition" in 2006.

Ian.

Hefezola 1st August 2020 10:47 AM

Palawano Bangkung
 
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Sharing mine

Cthulhu 2nd August 2020 05:21 AM

Interesting piece, Hefezola. The way the scabbard is held together is unusual to my eye; I've seen many instances of wrapping all the way around the sheath, but not around little inset areas. But it gives a lot more space to show off the carving, that's for sure.

It's a little hard to get an overall impression of the item without a photo showing the whole thing at once, can you post one?

Hefezola 2nd August 2020 05:28 AM

Hope this helps
 
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Originally Posted by Cthulhu
Interesting piece, Hefezola. The way the scabbard is held together is unusual to my eye; I've seen many instances of wrapping all the way around the sheath, but not around little inset areas. But it gives a lot more space to show off the carving, that's for sure.

It's a little hard to get an overall impression of the item without a photo showing the whole thing at once, can you post one?


Will send more pictures soon


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