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SanibelSwassa 7th March 2023 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by werecow (Post 279864)
I'm curious about the length of the large sundang. Also would like your cleaning superpowers.
Pic from the auction.

SanibelSwassa 8th March 2023 06:03 AM
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Clean up #4

Will need to work on the blade a little more and do a better etch but good enough for the 1st pass.

Enjoy!!

SanibelSwassa 8th March 2023 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Gavin Nugent (Post 279866)
That's what I thought.

The closest I've seen to that motif in swassa is arrangements of 3 half moons to make the triangle shape, not yet the V shape with circle in the center...
Closeups of the hilt and motif.

Gavin Nugent 8th March 2023 08:29 AM
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Visayan motifs?

https://www.aswangproject.com/beauti...attoo-culture/

Battara 10th March 2023 04:49 AM
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Actually the triangles are a common motif - stylized bamboo spouts - and they are used in the Morolands and in parts of Indonesia. They are also used by other Philippine tribes, especially like the Bagobo.

Battara 10th March 2023 05:01 AM
I wonder if the rings are in Bagobo style and Bagobo made. Mixes like this are not unheard of. Or this is a form of Sulu okir. Maranao usually don't use this form as much. Maguindanao use this with other ingredients. This after thinking about it some more.

BTW - the way the silver wire bands are made, they could be Sulu or Maguindanao.

Gavin Nugent 10th March 2023 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Battara (Post 280000)
Actually the triangles are a common motif - stylized bamboo spouts - and they are used in the Morolands and in parts of Indonesia. They are also used by other Philippine tribes, especially like the Bagobo.
Nice to know, thanks. What's the symbolism behind it?

The bamboo sprouts is an interesting theme that also runs in to weapons of chiseled steel spears and goads in Thailand and the surrounds too, they are manufactured to resemble this.


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